Given that we were being told this 40 years ago (by an organisation that shall remain anonymous!) - and yet we are still here in 2012 - I don't believe ya!
Furthermore, I make no apology for saying so.
Bill.
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Do you think our society is on the verge of collapsing?
by jam innot to sound like the gloom and doom cult we were apart,.
but are we heading for an collapse in our society?.
iam sure we all are familiar with the signs that bring about.
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Anthony Morris III publicly admits that he doesnt enjoy Field Service
by Calebs Airplane in2pm, january 9, 2010 san juan, puerto rico.... jws from all over the island take turns to use the biggest coliseum in the caribbean (jose miguel agrelot coliseum).
the big event... a brief 2-hour assembly featuring brooklyn bethel celebrities including anthony morris iii.
there had been a lot of excitement building up in the days preceding this event as there were rumors circulating that the society had a very special announcement to make.. after 2 ambiguous talks from 2 bethel speakers, anthony morris iii finally takes the stage and everyone is so thrilled to see him up close or on the big screen behind the stage.
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Bungi Bill
This sounds like every "Special Talk", "Special Assembly" etc . that I ever attended;
- afterwards, you were left asking "Why did I bother going to it ?"
Bill.
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"Worldlies"
by Ding inwhen you left the wts, how long did it take you to realize that most of the people around you are decent folks, not "worldlies" or "bad association"?.
how hard was it for you to accept this reality?.
it seems to me that even after realizing ttatt, it often takes a long time to realize the extent to which the organization's indoctrination still governs attitudes and thoughts....
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Bungi Bill
Some years after breaking with the JWs, I realised the need to rediscover the person I was before the Watchtower Madness took hold. Part of that included contacting many of the people I used to be close to.
It was then that the realisation hit - I actually used to know many excellent people who were "Worldlies." Furthermore, these same "Worldlies" were actually better people than many of the JWs that I knew.
I was particularly impressed by the way many of my former friends readily accepted me back:
- particularly after the way I had attempted to "witness" to them back then, about the imminent "End of the System" and other similar such nonsense. They would have had very good reason to believe that I had taken complete leave of my senses, but obviously no longer held that against me. Quite the opposite (with one only exception) to my JW family.
So, yes, their propaganda about "Worldlies" is just one more WTS lie.
Bill.
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JW Urban Legend - The Demonised Teddy Bear
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and girls!.
how many of you have heard the jehovah's witness urban legend about the demonised teddy bear?.
if you're from north london and were a witness during the late eighties and early nineties, there's a good chance you would have heard it.. i was lucky enough to have played a part in the actual account!.
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Bungi Bill
King Solomon,
Of course, much was read into the fact that the thing blew up when quizzed about the year 1975!
Bill.
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JW Urban Legend - The Demonised Teddy Bear
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and girls!.
how many of you have heard the jehovah's witness urban legend about the demonised teddy bear?.
if you're from north london and were a witness during the late eighties and early nineties, there's a good chance you would have heard it.. i was lucky enough to have played a part in the actual account!.
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Bungi Bill
Back in the early 1970s, a story was circulating about how a ouija board disintegrated when asked what was going to happen in 1975.
Bill.
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New Zealand Branch for sale
by mann377 ini guess the wtbs needs the $ ...............http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=10816501.
donations are waaaaay down and they have to feed the machine.
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Bungi Bill
Colin Taylor, the NZ Herald's journalist who wrote that article (cited by mann377), is under no illusions about what those "charitable activities" amount to.
Although not stated in his NZ Herald report, he readily volunteered in a private email that these charitable activities would be dominated by the likes of the Candace Cotti case!
Bill.
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The WTS "Brain Drain"
by Quendi ini posted this on another thread and am pasting it here to start a new one because i would be interested in getting others' thoughts on it.. there has been a downward spiral in the quality of the written publications since the death of fred franz in december 1992. whatever else can be said about franz, the man did have some education and his writing was of good quality.
others in the writing department also had some skill and command of language that gave cogency to their work.
but since franz's death, a huge leadership vacuum has opened in the wts.
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Bungi Bill
Unfortunately, even at their best, WTS publications were nothing more than well written nonsense.
Let the facts speak for themselves!
Bill.
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How many JW pedofiles do you personally know?
by oldlightnewshite ini was just thinking that out of the 200 jws that i actually know, at least 4 of them to my knowledge are pedophiles.
i know for a fact, through personal confidences.
that means, as far as my circle of jovo friends/acquaintances goes, 2% of them are kiddy fiddlers.. without mentioning names or details, how many do you know of for a certainty to be pedos, and what percentage does it work out at, considering all your circle of jovo friends?.
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Bungi Bill
One only, and this only came out in the open several years after I had parted company with the JWs:
- I only discovered that my former close friend was a pedofile when I read of his court case in the local newspaper (he received a prison sentence of six years). It also came out in the same court case that he had had a previous conviction for a similar offence some twenty years beforehand, while he was a JW of good standing; and which I never knew about.
Scary thought - when you consider that he had four daughters of his own. The only consolation in the whole sorry business is that he never laid a finger on any of my daughters!
Biil.
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Will we ever see another Ray Franz?
by Emery inwill we ever see another governing body member leave the organization like ray franz did and speak out against them?.
one can only imagine the kind of dirt that's been concealed behind those gb sessions since the 1980's.. what are your thoughts?.
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Bungi Bill
There was, of course, always this unshakeable belief (or desperate hope, perhaps?) that "The Society will correct itself - given time":
- accompanied by stern warnings and dire threats about "Moving ahead of the Society!"
Around about the same time period that Ray Franz spoke about, I heard others rationalize their actions on those grounds. To an extent, this attitude probably had a hold on him, too.
However ........ the reality is that - as they say down here in this part of the world - there is "Buckley's Chance" of that ever happening!
Bill.
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Will we ever see another Ray Franz?
by Emery inwill we ever see another governing body member leave the organization like ray franz did and speak out against them?.
one can only imagine the kind of dirt that's been concealed behind those gb sessions since the 1980's.. what are your thoughts?.
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Bungi Bill
King Solomon,
No wonder he had a crisis of conscience!
Bill.